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Growth from within and high retention are essential to our success as a service-based company. The average tenure of Expeditors' senior management team is over 20 years.

Timothy C. Barber
Executive Vice President
Europe
Tim started working in the international transportation industry in Chicago and San Francisco before moving to Seattle to join Expeditors in 1986. Tim has been an integral part of the successful leadership at Expeditors since the beginning of his career.
Tim joined Expeditors as an Import Manager at the Seattle branch. He was quickly promoted to District Manager and then Regional Vice President. He became Vice President of Global Sales in 1995 and led the rapidly growing worldwide professional sales team.
In 1998, Tim became Senior Vice President of Global Sales and was responsible for company-wide sales and marketing strategies, sales training, and worldwide business development. He excelled in this role and simultaneously stayed focused on sustaining growth and supporting the development of people and services.
From 1999 through 2007, Tim was the Executive Vice President of Global Sales until his appointment to President of Sales & Marketing in 2008. Tim’s creation and development of a professional sales program, a best in class account management program and many other impactful programs contributed to the overall success of the company.
As Executive Vice President of Europe, Tim is responsible and accountable for Expeditors‘ European network and operations. He brings a wealth of experience and knowledge to the position, along with boundless energy and competitiveness.

Blake R. Bell
President
Global Products
Blake Bell was promoted to President of Global Products in February 2023 after being Senior Vice President of Global Transcon for seven years. He is actively involved with the company’s procurement process, as well as the development of its Ground Network Services. He also currently acts as executive sponsor for several of the company’s biggest accounts.
Blake began his career with Expeditors in 1995 working as a District Sales Executive in the Seattle District. He spent his first five years in this job and won the President’s Club award for sales in 1997. In January 2001, he was promoted to District Manager of the Salt Lake City District. His accomplishments eventually led to his promotion to District Manager of the Los Angeles District in January 2005. He served in this role for 10 years before earning the promotion to Regional Vice President, Southwest Region where he oversaw all sales and operations for approximately 600 employees. His time leading GEO districts and regions helped to develop his multifaceted and practiced leadership philosophy.
Blake is a licensed US Customs Broker, and an IATA/FIATA certificate holder. He served as sponsor for the company’s Management Trainee program during his tenure as District Manager and Regional Vice President.
Blake resides in the Seattle area with his wife and three children.

Kelly Blacker
Senior Vice President
Global Air
Kelly’s career began in 1994 as a receptionist at Expeditors’ corporate headquarters in Seattle, WA. Her leadership potential was recognized early on, and in 1996 she entered the Management Trainee program. Upon completion of that program, Kelly relocated to New York and began working Route Development for the Middle East and the US, traveling extensively to further support collaboration between the two regions. In 2000, her significant contributions in this capacity were recognized with a promotion to Branch Manager within the New York District.
In 2004, Kelly was promoted to District Manager of Columbus, Ohio, and then went on to serve as the District Manager in Memphis, Tennessee, in 2007. Her operational, financial and leadership success in these roles paved the way for her to take on one of Expeditors’ largest gateway operations, Atlanta, Georgia, in 2011. She was then promoted to Regional Vice President for this region in 2015, where she led a successful team of more than 500 logistics professionals.
In May 2020 Kelly was promoted to her current role as Senior Vice President, Global Air and leads all aspects of the development and execution of our Global Air product.
Over the course of her career with Expeditors, Kelly has developed a passion for employee development along with strong expertise and vision for cultivating service provider and customer partnerships.
Kelly is a licensed Customs Broker, IATA / FIATA Certified, and holds a Bachelor’s Degree from the University of Puget Sound in Business Leadership and Japanese.

Benjamin G. Clark
Senior Vice President
Chief Strategy Officer
Ben Clark joined Expeditors in 2015 as Senior Vice President, General Counsel & Corporate Secretary, and became Senior Vice President & Chief Strategy Officer in 2020. Before joining Expeditors, Ben was Executive Vice President & General Counsel of the Dematic Group, a privately held materials automation company. Preceding that role, he held the position of Vice President and Deputy General Counsel of Celanese Corp., a Dallas-based chemicals and engineered materials manufacturer. Before Celanese, Ben held a variety of positions within the Honeywell Aerospace division. He gained more responsibility in each role, and ultimately culminated as its Vice President and General Counsel of Global Operations.
Ben began his executive career over 20 years ago, and has served in a variety of leadership roles in the aerospace, chemical, and materials automation industries. He is a Six Sigma black belt and is a strong believer in continuous process improvement within the legal industry.
A Denver native, Ben earned his B.A. in Mathematics and Economics from Yale College and his law degree from Harvard Law School. He is based at the corporate headquarters of Expeditors in Seattle, Washington, and enjoys skiing, diving, piano and math.

Jeffrey F. Dickerman
Senior Vice President
General Counsel & Corporate Secretary
Jeffrey F. Dickerman joined Expeditors in October 2004 as Associate Corporate Counsel and was promoted to Corporate Counsel in 2007. In 2009, Mr. Dickerman moved to Expeditors’ regional headquarters in London, United Kingdom where he was primarily responsible for overseeing all legal matters in Europe, Africa and the Middle East. In 2011, Mr. Dickerman was promoted to Director, Global Legal Services and then made Vice President and Associate General Counsel in 2015. In 2019, Mr. Dickerman was promoted to Vice President, Deputy General Counsel. In January 2020, Mr. Dickerman returned to Expeditors’ headquarters in Seattle, Washington and became Senior Vice President, General Counsel & Corporate Secretary. Prior to joining Expeditors, Mr. Dickerman was an Associate Attorney at Stoel Rives LLP.

Karl Francisco
Senior Vice President
Global Ocean
Karl started his career at Expeditors in 1984 when he was hired as a runner in the Los Angeles office. In 1992, he became the Los Angeles Import Manager and in 1994 was promoted to District Manager due to his great attitude, strong work ethic, and management skills.
After five years as District Manager, Karl was promoted to Regional Vice President of the Southwest Region where he was instrumental in growing all of the offices in the Southwest region. His unique skills and management style enabled him to effectively mentor each of the District Managers reporting to him.
Karl was promoted to Senior Vice President, North America in 2014. In this role, he successfully oversaw the Western United States and the Southern Border region, one of the largest regions of the company, with a continued emphasis on developing and mentoring those on his team.
In May 2017, Karl was promoted to Senior Vice President, Global Ocean. His thirty plus years of logistics experience, expert management skills, geographical expertise and positive attitude all contribute to his visionary leadership of the Global Ocean team.

Steven J. Grimmer
Senior Vice President
Account Management
Steven Grimmer is a proven leader at Expeditors through dedication and excellence in the global marketplace. In the position of Senior Vice President of Account Management, he displays vision in order to create a strategic direction for Expeditors Account Management program.
A New Jersey native, Steve began his career in international transportation at the Expeditors Newark office and later moved to Seattle in 2004 to head Expeditors Account Management team.
Joining Expeditors in the Newark/New York region as a Sales Executive, he advanced to Operations Manager. He relocated in 2000 to the Baltimore office in the role of District Manager. From there, he was appointed to lead the Global Account Management program in Seattle.
In the four years as District Manager of the Baltimore office, Steve relied on his sales and management accomplishments and honed his leadership skills. He led branch development and productivity to exceed goals, continuously staying focused on sustaining growth and supporting the development of people and services. In Steve's current role of Senior Vice President of Account Management, his dedication, and commitment is evident by ensuring Account Management programs are customized globally to the specific needs of each customer. His motivation to get the job done in a dynamically changing marketplace allows him to succeed at achieving goals of exceptional Account Management at every level.

Bruce J. Krebs
Senior Vice President
Global Distribution
Mr. Krebs joined Expeditors in 2000 as Regional Vice President – Mexico. In 2002, he was appointed to Regional Vice President - Mexico & Brazil. Bruce relocated to São Paulo where he oversaw the expansion of Expeditors’ Brazilian operations while maintaining responsibility for the rapidly growing Mexico region.
In 2007, Bruce was promoted to Regional Vice President – U.S. Southern Border & Mexico. He relocated to Laredo, Texas where he further developed his extensive knowledge and experience in distribution services. In 2014 he was promoted to his current position of Senior Vice President, Global Distribution Services.
Prior to joining Expeditors, Bruce spent seven years in the logistics industry in the South American region and six years in Europe based in Milan, Italy. He has a B.A. in International Relations - World Trade and Development and Italian. He is fluent in Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish.

Murali Krishnamurthy
Senior Vice President
Middle East, Africa,
& Indian Subcontinent
Murali Krishnamurthy has over 25 years of experience in the logistics industry and has grown through the ranks. He has held Sales, Operations and Management roles in his career and is now part of the Senior Management team in Expeditors.
Murali started his career over 25 years ago in Chennai, India as a Sales Executive with a large Indian company and was posted in the freight forwarding division. He spent the next 4 years in Sales and Operations role in various cities in India. Murali joined Expeditors as the first District Manager of Chennai office in 1997 when the district was opened. He then moved into the role of Regional Vice President for India and relocated to Delhi. He was instrumental in expanding the network of offices across India, established new services and also hired and developed key managers, many of whom currently hold important positions in India and the region.
Murali was given the responsibility of the Middle East, Africa, and the Indian Subcontinent region in 2015 and relocated to Dubai. In his current role, he is responsible for the Operations in the existing network of offices in the region and for possible expansion into Africa in the coming years.
Murali has been married for over 20 years and has a teenaged daughter. He, his wife, and daughter live in Dubai.

Khoon Ling Lim
Senior Vice President
South Asia
Khoon Ling began her career at the Land Transport Authority of Singapore and was involved in design of road/rail infrastructure projects as well as the development and implementation of transport technology.
She subsequently joined Singapore Airlines in its Network Revenue Management Department. In this headquarter role, Khoon Ling worked closely with the regions to support their sales and marketing efforts while optimizing revenue for the airline.
She joined Expeditors International of Washington, Inc., as Regional Management Associate in 2004. Upon graduation as a Management Associate, she was involved in the Company’s Route Development Program in Singapore and she later moved on to head the Singapore Sales and the Air Export Department. In 2008, she was promoted to Country Manager & General Manager overseeing Expeditors’ operations in Singapore.
Embracing the Company’s philosophy and goals, Khoon Ling continues her focus on employees’ professional development, the growth of the Company’s business and establishing good long-term relationship with the Company’s business partners and customers.
In 2013, she was appointed as Regional Vice President, Southeast Asia, and in 2015, Senior Vice President, South Asia. Today, Khoon Ling is responsible for the operations of all offices within the South Asia Pacific region.
Her passion away from work includes reading and spending time with her family. Khoon Ling is married with two young children.
Khoon Ling holds a Bachelor Degree in Civil Engineering (1st class Honors) with Minor in Business from the National University of Singapore.

Dana L. Lorenze
Senior Vice President
Global Customs
Dana Lorenze is responsible for the policy, structure, and strategy of Expeditors Global Customs product. She has extensive experience in international trade, compliance, and operations, and currently serves as the Senior Vice President of Global Customs at Expeditors Headquarters in Seattle, WA.
Dana joined Expeditors in January 1995 in the Los Angeles office. She has held numerous positions including District Sales Manager, Customs & Import Manager, and District Manager of Expeditors Salt Lake City and Portland. In 2011, she relocated to Seattle as Director of Global Customs, further developing Expeditors Global Customs offering worldwide.
She holds a B.S. in International Business with a minor in Political Science from the University of Colorado and obtained a certificate in Executive Leadership from the Stanford Graduate School of Business.
Dana is a licensed U.S. Customs Broker and IATA/FIATA certified “with Distinction” and currently serves as a member of the Private Sector Consultative Group to the World Customs Organization. She has previously served as a Director on the Board of the Foreign Trade Association of Southern California and is currently a Trustee on the Board of Directors for the Arts Fund.

Christopher J. McClincy
Senior Vice President and
Chief Information Officer

Jeffrey S. Musser
President and
Chief Executive Officer
Jeff Musser was elected President and Chief Executive Officer in December 2013. Prior to this promotion Mr. Musser was Executive Vice President and Chief Information Officer.
Mr. Musser began his career with Expeditors in 1983 working part time as a messenger. He spent the first 22 years of his career in progressively responsible roles in the field in both operations and brokerage. This included ten years spent as the District Manager of one of Expeditors’ largest branches. His accomplishments in San Francisco resulted in his promotion to Regional Vice President of the Northwest region where he oversaw all sales and operations with approximately 450 employees. He spent nine years as Executive Vice President and Chief Information Officer rounding out his broad and seasoned leadership profile. He also acted as the corporate sponsor for several of the Company’s biggest accounts.
Mr. Musser has extensive knowledge and expertise in the global logistics field. He is a licensed US Customs Broker and also holds an IATA/FIATA Certificate. His unique portfolio consists of both field and global corporate leadership responsibilities and his background in the increasingly critical information technology discipline makes him exceptionally well-qualified to lead Expeditors into the future. He embodies and values Expeditors’ culture and will continue to reinforce its importance for the success of the Expeditors.
Mr. Musser is married with two children. He enjoys watching his son play football for the SMU Mustangs and attending his daughter’s equestrian events. Some of his other hobbies include snow skiing, fly fishing and the occasional round of golf.

Bradley S. Powell
Senior Vice President and
Chief Financial Officer
Bradley S. Powell joined Expeditors as Chief Financial Officer in October 2008 and was elected Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer in February 2012. Prior to joining Expeditors, Mr. Powell served as President and Chief Financial Officer of Eden Bioscience Corporation, a publicly-traded biotechnology company, from December 2006 to September 2008 and as Vice President and Chief Financial Officer from July 1998 to December 2006.

William A. Romberger III
Senior Vice President
The Americas
As an east coast native, Bill grew up in the transportation business. He began his career working for his family’s business, a company providing distribution and drayage services to customers in the Port of Baltimore. Bill then joined Expeditors as a District Sales Executive in our Baltimore office in 1995. Shortly thereafter, in 1996, a need arose to open an office in Norfolk, Virginia. This gave Bill his first management opportunity within the company.
After five years of continued success, Bill was given his next opportunity when he was promoted to District Manager of our Detroit branch. Bill relocated to Michigan in 2001 where he continued to focus on strengthening operational performance and building a committed team of employees. Bill is known for his hands-on approach to problem solving, and takes pride in his commitment to developing the people who work with and for him.
After a successful tenure in Detroit, Bill was promoted to Regional Vice President of the Mid-Atlantic. In his five years as RVP, Bill continued his focus on employees and customers.
Following his RVP position, Bill took on the role of Senior Vice President of Global Transcon where he was extremely successful in building the infrastructure and knowledge around one of our fastest growing products. Bill’s work in Transcon led to his previous role as Senior Vice President of Global Ocean. Bill’s high-level experience with both product and Geo along with his knowledge of Expeditors systems and operations lead to his promotion to Senior Vice President of the Americas.
Bill Romberger was promoted to Senior Vice President of The Americas in February 2017. His knowledge, experience, and standing in the network combined with his focus on improving customer service and productivity through process management are key reasons he is a proven leader at Expeditors.

Richard H. Rostan
President
Global Geographies
and Operations
Rick began his career in logistics more than 40 years ago, shortly after graduating from Dana College near Omaha, Nebraska where he played football and baseball.
In 1980, Rick took an entry-level position at Harper Robinson in Chicago, Illinois. After successively responsible roles, he left in 1985 to join Expeditors International for the opportunity to run the Chicago office. While in Chicago, he worked his way up in the organization from Manager to District Manager to Regional Vice President. His focus in these positions was always on operational execution, driving sales and personal development. Based on his performance he was promoted to Senior Vice President of Global Distribution in 2012 and relocated to Expeditors’ Seattle headquarters.
In 2014, Rick was promoted to Senior Vice President of the Americas and in 2015 Executive Vice president of the Americas.
After guiding the Americas for three years, Rick was promoted to President of Global Geographies and Operations. He is responsible for all sales and operations of the over 350 locations and over 18,000 employees.
Rick and his wife of over 40 years, Peggy, live in Seattle. Their three grown daughters are married and live in the Chicago area.

Kanny Satar
Senior Vice President
Global Transcon
Kanny was promoted to Senior Vice President of Global Transcon in May 2023. In this position, Kanny is responsible for all aspects of the development and execution of our Global Transcon, the company’s domestic and Ground Network Services transportation offering.
Kanny began his career with Expeditors in 2004 working in the electronic data integration department at the corporate headquarters in Seattle. In 2006, he was accepted into the Management Trainee program, a 12-month cross-training program designed to develop future leaders. As a Management Trainee, Kanny spent time in our Atlanta, Miami, and Seattle offices learning our systems, products and services. In 2008, he moved to Houston to become a District Sales Executive where he made significant contributions to the rapid growth of the Houston district. In 2010 he was promoted to lead the Houston Sales team as the District Sales Manager. In 2016, Kanny was promoted to Director of Sales for The Americas region and moved back to our corporate headquarters in Seattle. In this role, he brought together the leadership of Sales, Sales Operations, Marketing, Vertical Programs, Technology Solutions Teams, and Country Route Development functions to achieve greater cohesion and performance. Kanny was then promoted to Vice President, Sales and Marketing for The Americas in January 2021. Over the course of his career, Kanny has built a culture of growth and accountability in his leadership.
Kanny lives in the Seattle area with his wife Cynthia.

J. Jonathan Song
Senior Vice President
Global Sales & Marketing
In the position of Senior Vice President of Global Sales and Marketing, Jonathan is responsible for directing, coordinating and supporting company sales and marketing functions.
While still in school, Jonathan began his career in logistics for a global logistics company in Charlotte, NC. After earning his B.A. from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, Jonathan was relocated to several cities in the U.S., holding various management positions, including District Manager, Trade Lane Manager, and Director of Corporate Customers.
Jonathan joined Expeditors in 1999 to relocate back to Asia as Director of Account Management for Expeditors' Asia Region. In 2002, Jonathan took on a new role as Director of Sales & Marketing for Asia region. In 2010, Jonathan was promoted to Vice President of Sales and Marketing, Asia Pacific region.
After spending 15 years in Asia based in Seoul, Hong Kong, and Shanghai, in June 2014, Jonathan was promoted to his current role as Senior Vice President of Global Sales & Marketing and relocated back to the United States. Jonathan recently completed the Executive Leadership Program at Seattle University.

Jose A. Ubeda
Senior Vice President
Digital Solutions
Jose Ubeda joined Expeditors in 1984, age 17, at the San Francisco office. He transferred to Seattle in 1991 to become the Seattle Branch Air and Ocean Export Manager.
In 1993, Jose earned the role as District Manager of the Detroit office followed by a promotion to Regional Manager of the Northern Border in 1996. In 2000, Jose reached another milestone in his career with a promotion to Regional Vice President for the North Central Region. He later became the Regional Vice President of the Northwest region in 2008.
In 2010 Jose joined the executive leadership team, assuming the role of Senior Vice President of Global Air. While in that capacity, Jose was primarily responsible for the development and growth of our international air product, and also serves on the Cargo Network Services advisory board in support of the airfreight industry.
In May 2020, Jose’s proven record of accomplishment was recognized with the appointment to a new role as Senior Vice President of Digital Solutions, leading the development, deployment, sales and operations of Expeditors’ full suite of digital solutions. This position will play a critical role in delivering technology solutions designed to improve our customers’ logistics and supply chain strategies. Jose’s embodiment of the Expeditors culture, combined with his operational process management skills and his experience in sales and customer service, bring a unique portfolio of talents and abilities to the Executive team.
Jose is passionate about the development and support of opportunity youth. He leads the Opportunity Knocks program at Expeditors, which offers paid internships for opportunity youth to increase confidence, skills and job readiness with potential for long-term careers. He also sits on the Puget Sound board of directors at Year Up and on the national board of directors of Cristo Rey. He hopes to inspire in the young people with whom he works the same qualities that have served him so well in life: commitment, resilience, accountability, and integrity.

Daniel R. Wall
President
Global Services
Like many at Expeditors, Dan started his career as a messenger responsible for clients’ customs documents at the Seattle office in 1987. He became District Manager of Denver in 1992, and with a clear focus on delivering the highest quality of customer service, his branch won Quality Branch of the Year in 1995.
In 1996, Dan became a Project Manager in Detroit and managed the Central Process Center. A year later he was named District Manager of the Seattle branch, which also went on to win Quality Branch of the Year in 1999 and Overall Branch of the Year in 2000. With a passion for exceptional customer service and a focus on developing those around him, Dan continued to hone his own leadership skills. From March of 2002 to December 2004, he was Global Director of Account Management, responsible for the development and retention of the top global accounts. He was then elected Vice President of Order Management in January 2004 and Senior Vice President of Ocean Services in September 2004.
Dan was promoted to President of Global Products in June 2015, and promoted to President of Global Services in January 2023. Dan has obtained a Customs Brokers License, IATA/FIATA Certificate, and an Executive MBA from Seattle University.

Allen Wang
Senior Vice President
North Asia
Allen began his career with Expeditors in the accounting department at the company headquarters in Seattle, Washington in July 2002. He moved to Hong Kong to lead the development, implementation and support of the company’s accounting system and processes for all of Asia in 2003.
In 2005 he moved to Shanghai where his scope of responsibility expanded to regional finance and operations. He was promoted to a geographic management role in 2010 as District Manager of Beijing. During his tenure as District Manager, he played an active role in spearheading the Shanghai Regional Building Project in the newly developed economic area near the Hongqiao Airport. The state-of-the-art ocean and logistics warehouse facility complex was successfully completed in 2012.
With his wealth of knowledge ranging from finance, operations, and geographic management, Allen was next promoted to Regional Vice President. In his current capacity as the Senior Vice President of North Asia, his core responsibilities are overseeing the business operations and the products and services of North Asia, which is comprised of China, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. Prior to joining Expeditors, Allen served in the Taiwan Army and worked for KPMG at the Assurance and Financial Services Group in Taiwan.
Additionally, he holds a Master of Finance from the University of Illinois. In 2001, he also obtained a New York State Certified Public Accountant License. He has achieved Chartered Financial Analyst Levels 1 and 2 as well.
Allen is currently based in Shanghai where he enjoys swimming, skiing, and playing golf during his free time.

Michelle D. Weaver
Senior Vice President
Global Order Management
Michelle assumed the role of Senior Vice President in October 2015. She is primarily responsible for the development and growth of our Order Management product, which includes customer consolidation and supply chain services.
Like many at Expeditors, Michelle began her career as an office assistant in the Ocean Import Department in our Seattle branch in 1993. During her tenure at Expeditors, she has held various positions throughout our branch and our Corporate Ocean and Order Management teams, including the Director of Order Management, the Director of Ocean Export, and, most recently, the Vice President of Ocean Cargo Services for the Americas.
For over 25 years, Michelle has developed a strong Expeditors background. Her dedication to our Expeditors culture, her deep expertise in operational management, and her commitment to delivering exceptional customer service brings a unique set of skills & leadership to our Order Management product.
Michelle lives on Bainbridge Island with her husband and two children.

Craig L. Wilwerding
Senior Vice President
Global Business Operations
Since the start of his career at Expeditors, it has been Craig’s mission to set a workplace standard of consistency, excellence, and professionalism. These unwavering ideals are the core of Global Operations’ rapid growth. Because of this commitment and vision, Craig was hand-selected in 2015 to lead the newly created Global Business Operations department as its Senior Vice President. He and his team are committed to delivering world class operational efficiency in our service offerings, which will result in unparalleled value to our customers, creating a competitive advantage for Expeditors.
Craig was born and raised in Iowa, moving to Chicago to launch his career with Expeditors in 1991. He received his Customs Brokerage License in 1993 and later his MBA from Lake Forest Graduate School in 2002. Craig advanced rapidly in his career. He assumed the role of District Manager of the Centralized Processing Center in Detroit in 1997 and was subsequently promoted to Branch Manager of Chicago in 1999. In 2005, Craig left the cold winters of Chicago and welcomed the hot summers of Atlanta, where he again took on the role of District Manager, this time in a cornerstone office. His proven leadership and superior financial results in his previous roles made him a natural choice to lead the Mid-Atlantic region as Regional Vice President in 2011. In 2015, Craig packed up his family again and headed to Seattle to lead the Global Business Operations department as its Senior Vice President.
The teams Craig has built around him are the keys to his success. He has a firm belief in hiring extremely bright, talented, and driven candidates who are committed to excellence in their daily work. He mentors these employees by teaching them the basics, investing in the needed resources to engineer their success, then moving out of the way to give them space for creative thinking and strategy execution. This methodology allows his employees to build confidence in their abilities and find passion in their craft. Craig understands the paramount need for leadership and strives to enable future leaders.
Craig's friends and family would tell you that this passion for his employees is translated into his personal life through mentoring and coaching youth sports, as well as his enthusiasm for the Chicago Cubs.